Are the countless self-proclaimed ‘healers’ giving medical advice on TikTok quacks? Or are they a sign that witches* have reclaimed their space in the health field, reviving lost knowledge and offering the care that mainstream healthcare still fails to provide?

In this podcast, a contextual performance by Cem A. (aka @freeze_magazine) and Roberto Winter, curators Lucia Pietroiusti and Nora Sternfeld debate an impossible question: should museums exhibit only living artists, or dead artists?

“Maye couldn’t take her eyes off Kevin Commitment. He was just so tight and shiny.”